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Cosconor


Esti sigur ca ai activat CellName from CBS īn cellTrack ? Sau doar ai modificat CB-ul pe canalul 50 ?
FolderBulk
QUOTE (Cosconor @ Aug 4 2008, 15:55) *
Esti sigur ca ai activat CellName from CBS īn cellTrack ? Sau doar ai modificat CB-ul pe canalul 50 ?

Da . L-am activat . In setari la mine am pus asa :
Cell Name from Id : on
Cell name from CBS : on .

Nu mi-a mers .
Am incercat cu Cell Name from Id :off
Cell name from CBS : on
la fel nu a mers .

Versiunea pe care o folosesc este : CellTrack91 1.0.6

Stii cumva unde este amplasata celula 11911 cu LAC 11146 ?
 
sorente
In Germania, pe Vodafone, indicatiile Cell Info erau cel putin ciudate, imi apareau pe ecran numere, de exemplu 633, care nu avea legatura cu Cell ID din netmonitor, cateodata apareau 2 numere, de ex. 634 639 huh.gif wtf?
Cosconor
Da, īmi amintesc, CB-ul pe canalul 50 indica "Cheap fixed codes for D2-Best City customers", adica niste prefice telefonice...

Iata AICI care erau canalele CB disponibile īn Germania.
sorente
Ia uite, vad ca au si Sender ID of the current base station wink.gif
Cosconor
Da, canalul 833 pe Vodafone. smile.gif

Pe O2, vechiul canal 221 īti transmite coordinatele BTS-ului, apoi te duci pe site-ul lor Internet si introduci codul acela si vezi harta cu locatia BTS-ului (asa era pe vremuri, acum cātiva ani, nu stiu daca acea sectiune a site-ului mai exista īnca).
sorente
La noi nu se poate pentru ca te duci si distrugi BTS-ul, pentru ca tii cu celalalt operator death.gif
 
sorente
Ia uite ce tare:
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La site-ul asta scrie pe shelter numele site-ului si codul laugh.gif
Daca ar fi toate asa...
Cosconor
QUOTE (sorente @ Sep 23 2008, 17:53) *
La site-ul asta scrie pe shelter numele site-ului si codul laugh.gif
Daca ar fi toate asa...

Da, foarte foarte tare ! cool.gif
Da e si o vechitura de site, activ din iulie 1997 ! Shelterul este tot cel original, din cāte vad.


Am gasit si ceva oarecum asemanator si la site-ul Orange din Bārla (Olt).

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sorente


Super tare w00t.gif S44 inseamna 4 TRE-uri pe sectorul 1 si 4 pe sectorul 2.
Cosconor
Stiu. smile.gif

Poza a fost facuta īn iunie 2008, īnsa site-ul a evoluat de cānd a fost scris acel mesaj ! Acum vreo 2 ani era un MBO2_433(900), īnsa acum l-au quadri-sectorizat.

Vroiam sa te īntreb ceva legat de aceste MBO2, MBI5 si altele...
Stiu ca O-ul acela indica ca este Outdoor si I-ul indoor, dar defapt care sunt diferentele īntre aceste MBI3/MBI5, sau MBO2/MBO3/MBO5. confusedsmiley.png
Sunt tot echipamente Alcatel, ca acele G3 Mini care le mai utilizeaza Orange ?
Cosconor
Alcatel-Lucent 9100 Base Station GSM/EDGE

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The Alcatel-Lucent 9100 Base Station GSM/EDGE offers increased deployment flexibility, better radio performance and highly compact design.
The 9100 MB allows service providers to deploy GSM alone or a combination of GSM and UMTS networks together -- all in the same cabinet.

A full range of Base Stations cabinets for any type of coverage, capacity and environment is offered including
- Macro Base Station cabinet for dense urban - MBI5 (indoor) / MBO2 (outdoor)
- Medium Base Station cabinet for suburban - MBI3 (indoor) / MBO1 (outdoor)
- Small and Compact Base Station cabinet for rural areas - CBO (outdoor)
- Micro Base Stations - RRU (Remote RF Unit) for densification and indoor


GSM maximum configuration
:
- 3x4 TRxs with current TRx
- 24 TRxs with Twin TR

Deci īntr-o configuratie S_345, MBI5-ul este "plin".

LINK
sorente
QUOTE (Cosconor @ Sep 23 2008, 22:43) *
Stiu. smile.gif

Poza a fost facuta īn iunie 2008, īnsa site-ul a evoluat de cānd a fost scris acel mesaj ! Acum vreo 2 ani era un MBO2_433(900), īnsa acum l-au quadri-sectorizat.

Vroiam sa te īntreb ceva legat de aceste MBO2, MBI5 si altele...
Stiu ca O-ul acela indica ca este Outdoor si I-ul indoor, dar defapt care sunt diferentele īntre aceste MBI3/MBI5, sau MBO2/MBO3/MBO5. confusedsmiley.png
Sunt tot echipamente Alcatel, ca acele G3 Mini care le mai utilizeaza Orange ?

MBO1 e un cabinet outdoor mai micut, nu are decat o usa, MBO2 are 2 compartimente.
MBI3 e mai mic decat MBI5, e doar diferenta de marime, in MBI5 poti baga mai multe TRE-uri. Toate cele enumerate sunt echipamente Alcatel.
Cosconor
Inca o īntrebare, dar legata de Vodafone.


Toate site-urile noi instalate de Vodafone beneficieaza de acest tip de RBS-uri outdoor.
Ce stiti despre aceste echipamente ? Cine le produce ? Stiti cumva si ce capacitati maxime (TRX-uri) se pot instala pe ele ?
Mersi ! smile.gif



Si ceva interesant : toate au o mica eticheta care indica Last Charge si Next Charge, sub forma Week/Year
(17/08 = saptamāna 17 a anului 2008 ; e bine ca poti afla aproximativ cānd a fost instalat site-ul, cam 2-3 luni dupa Last Charge din cāte am vazut eu...)


Multumesc pentru rapunsul de mai sus, Sorente.




sorente
Despre RBS-uri nu stiu mai nimic, stiu doar ca TRE-urile sunt twin TRE, adica au capacitati duble. Vodafone instaleaza demult asa ceva, Orange de curand a inceput si nici nu pune pe toate site-urile.
Cat despre etichete: inseamna ca la next charge o sa il ia de acolo sa puna altul in loc? huh.gif

P.S. Ti-ai tras aparat cu zoom suparat cool.gif am vazut din PDF-ul cu Netmonitor pe Valea Prahovei.
Cosconor
QUOTE (sorente @ Sep 25 2008, 18:46) *
Despre RBS-uri nu stiu mai nimic, stiu doar ca TRE-urile sunt twin TRE, adica au capacitati duble.

OK, ca tot a venit vorba, twin TRE-urile astea, noi cum le vedem īn Netmonitor ?? Ca un singur TRE, sau ca 2 TRE-uri separate ? confusedsmiley.png
Adica cu acest double TRE, poti de exemplu sa activezi Hopping-ul daca pe o celula nu ai instalat decāt un twin TRX din asta ?

QUOTE (sorente @ Sep 25 2008, 18:46) *
Cat despre etichete: inseamna ca la next charge o sa il ia de acolo sa puna altul in loc? huh.gif

Ah nu, nici vorba.
In poza de mai jos au dezlipit eticheta (care pāna la urma nu cred ca le serveste la nimic), dar se vede īnca 36/06...



QUOTE (sorente @ Sep 25 2008, 18:46) *
P.S. Ti-ai tras aparat cu zoom suparat cool.gif

Da, īn primavara mi-am luat un bridge Panasonic cu zoom optic x18. notangel.gif








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Alcatel's new Twin TRX radio transceiver doubles the capacity of existing equipment, while occupying the same space in the rack. Scheduled for release in 2006, the new Twin TRX is particularly adapted for densely populated urban areas, with a maximum capacity of 24 TRX per Base Station cabinet.

Twin TRX transceivers can be installed in the full range of Alcatel's indoor and outdoor BTS. As an example, inside the Compact BTS Outdoor, a small and light outdoor BTS that can be mounted on a pole high off the ground, the Twin will offer a BTS capacity of 6TRX. Its design eliminates the need for site enclosures, providing cheaper installation, and can be powered by a solar panel, for full autonomy. Well adapted for low-ARPU areas, this solution is equally attractive for other markets.

Alcatel's Twin TRX can also be used in a different configuration to extend cell coverage for areas with low-density populations. The 2 TRX of the Twin TRX can be combined and offer an unmatched Very High output power of 110 W. Combined with the software activated feature called 4Receive Diversity (4RxDiv), the solution offers a very large cell radius boosting both the downlink and the uplink paths.




Si de la Ericsson (dTRU)
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Balancing coverage and capacity

While basic entry-level radio solutions may appear to be an optimum solution for sparsely populated rural areas, the configuration options available from more flexible RBS equipment enable operators to optimize radio network deployment to minimize the number of radio sites. Both the RBS' ability to reach the phone (downlink) and to receive the weak signal from the phone (uplink) need to be considered during radio network planning. Recent advances in GSM/EDGE radio systems optimize downlink power and uplink sensitivity to suit various conditions, meeting all coverage and capacity needs in a cost-effective way, and making the best use of network investments. These include: Transmitter Coherent Combining (TCC), which extends down-link coverage by doubling RBS output power; Four-Way Receiver Diversity (4WRD), which extends up-link coverage by combining signals from four antenna branches, and; Smart Range, which offers scalable capacity in base station sites with large cell ranges.

In combination, these techniques deliver much larger cell areas, reduce the number of radio sites required and cut CAPEX per square kilometre significantly -- often by more than half.
The scenario that follows illustrates how sa GSM operator can start deployment with large cells providing limited capacity, and add capacity over time as it is needed to meet new traffic demands, as shown in Figure 1 (above). It shows how an initial site with extreme coverage can have its capacity expanded more than ten-fold through the addition of transceiver (TRX) hardware and the efficient use of BSS software features.

In the first step, coverage is maximized and initial investment is minimized by keeping the number of sites to a minimum. Double TRUs, or dTRUs, containing two TRX in one physical unit, can be configured as a single TRX with double the output power; performance can be further enhanced using four-receiver diversity in the uplink. As traffic demands grow, step 2 enhances capacity simply by the insertion of an additional dTRU per cell, enabling up to three times more subscribers to be served due to effects from trunking efficiency. No upgrade to the initial antenna and feeder system is required. For step 3, no site visit is needed. From the operations centre, the second dTRU is configured back to a higher-capacity mode and three TRXs are provided per cell. Capacity is now more than five times the initial configuration. No changes to the site are required. An additional Dynamic Overlay/Underlay feature is introduced to provide traffic steering between the two layers in the cell with different coverage.

Finally, step 4 can also be performed without a site visit and increases capacity to fourteen times the initial configuration. With load-based Dynamic Half-Rate, traffic channels can be allocated at a certain blocking threshold value. The Half-Rate feature enables two users to share the available resource in the cell with the compromise of some degradation of voice quality. At peak times, all connections might use the Half-Rate feature. As traffic levels grow even higher, operators have two options available for adding more capacity. One option is to add more macro RBS capacity by deploying additional RBS cabinets at the same site. The other is to deploy micro RBSs to offload macro cells. As the operator only has to make this decision once the traffic has grown sufficiently, the risk is removed from the investment and pay-back calculations are more certain.
Cosconor
Am gasit : RBS-urile utilizate de Vodafone sunt Nortel S18000.



QUOTE
Capacity
- Up to 18 TRX in one single cabinet
- Up to 3 radio cabinets




Si cāteva exemple de Alcatel MBO (utilizate de Orange) :





Speedo
VDF are toata reteaua in acest moment pe Huawei, core, soft-switching si o parte mai mica Nortel.
Ericsson a disparut demult, Siemens aproape ca nici n-a functionat.
andreic
QUOTE (Cosconor @ Sep 25 2008, 21:48) *
Adica cu acest double TRE, poti de exemplu sa activezi Hopping-ul daca pe o celula nu ai instalat decāt un twin TRX din asta ?

Imi place aia cu "low arpu network"... cred ca sunt bune la noi la una din retele tongue.gif
Cosconor
QUOTE (andreic @ Sep 25 2008, 22:18) *
Imi place aia cu "low arpu network"... cred ca sunt bune la noi la una din retele tongue.gif

Reteaua la care te referi le utilizeaza deja... smile.gif
NiNelu
QUOTE (Speedo @ Sep 25 2008, 23:05) *
VDF are toata reteaua in acest moment pe Huawei, core, soft-switching si o parte mai mica Nortel.
Ericsson a disparut demult, Siemens aproape ca nici n-a functionat.


Nu vreau sa te contrazic,dar cea mai mare parte a retelei VDF este Ericsson si Nortel,Huawei-ul a intrat pe piata(in Romania) acum un an sau doi cel mult si acum lucreaza si cu VDF si cu Orange
Speedo
Pai nu ma contrazice, informeaza-te.

Ericsson a disparut de la VDF de cca. 1 an, a fost pur si simplu zburat!
Problemele de anul trecut de la VDF, cu vocea, cu down-time al retelei, voice-switching, etc proveneau de la trecerea pe core MPLS Huawei.
De altfel erau probleme interente la orice migrare pe o noua retea.
telecomro
Deci avem:
- Vodafone - Huawei;
- Orange - ALU;
-Cosmote - Ericsson;
-Zapp - Lucent;
- DigiMobil - Nokia - Siemens;
- Romtelecom Mobil ?????
Cosconor
QUOTE (Speedo @ Sep 26 2008, 12:37) *
Problemele de anul trecut de la VDF, cu vocea, cu down-time al retelei, voice-switching, etc proveneau de la trecerea pe core MPLS Huawei.

Deci CORE-ul retelei este pe Huawey, īnsa BTS-urile (RBS-urile) tot cu Nortel se instaleaza.
Cel putin toate BTS-urile noi (din 2006 īncoace) pe care le-am vazut au RBS-uri Nortel S18000.
telecomro
Pe 3G tot ce se instaleaza este Huawei si nu doar la ei. Doar Zapp are 3G pe ZTE (cel putin oficial , nu m-am urcat pe bloc sa vad ce scrie pe cutie).

Pe GSM probabil mai instaleaza ceva Nortel dar este o mare prostie, Nortel cat de curand va da faliment.
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